Joe Warren can’t help but chuckle as Sean Wheelock brings up Brock Lesnar’s imminent suspension by the US anti-doping agency. “I don’t want to talk about USADA. Are you kidding me? But, the bottom line is they’re going to get someone every single week.”

Ben Askren asks his cohosts, “Are you surprised that Brock Lesnar has used a PED? Or, are you surprised that Brock Lesnar justified getting caught using a PED?” Wheelock is surprised Lesnar got caught while Warren “is surprised he passed the first few” tests. Wheelock explains, “if [Lesnar] gets a two year suspension that makes him forty-one when he’s eligible to return” to the UFC.

Warren believes fighters who generally fight in main events are tested with more scrutiny. “If you’re an undercard, second, or co-main event you might not get tested.” Guys like Joe Warren, Brock Lesnar, and Jon Jones “are always the main event. [They] always have a belt on their waist and are fighting for a world championship.”

Joe Warren had heard rumors around the Minnesota MMA and wrestling communities that Brock Lesnar “has known for over a year that he was going to fight” at UFC 200. “Lesnar never technically retired,” says Joe Warren. “They knew what was going on.”

Wheelock asks his cohosts if they think “Hunt deserves more money” if Lesnar gets a “two-year ban from USADA and the UFC?” Warren believes Hunt may have some ground to stand on “because of his recent fights.” According to Warren, “he’s had three guys, his last three fighters, pop for performance enhancing. He’s pissed, man. I think they should bonus him out, [but] Brock isn’t going to get any of that money taken from him.”

Askren tired of Michael Page being given easy fights

Ben Askren was not impressed with Michael Page’s win at Bellator 158 in London. “You know what? I get annoyed about this Michael Page character Sean,” Askren laments. “They’re giving this guy easy fight after easy fight.” Warren agrees: “He’s been on the undercard of every one of my fights.”

Warren does want to give Page some credit. “I think he’s actually got the skill set… He looks like he can handle himself on the ground, he can get back up. He’s been impressing me.”  “We don’t know how tough he is,” retorts Askren. “We don’t know what his real takedown defense is like, we haven’t seen him fight a tough wrestler, and we haven’t seen what he’s like off his back.”

Askren wants Bellator to match Page up with fighter Chris Honeycutt. “That would be a tough fight for him,” Askren says. Warren wonders, “Can [Honeycutt] take some of those hard punches like that?” Askren does not know, but he contends, “Spike is not going to let that happen.” Warren agrees and says, “They built him,” and they are not going to lose “their bright star.”

Fighters are subverting their suspensions by going overseas

Wheelock calls Wanderlei Silva and Mike Cro Cop’s migration to Japan’s Rizin FC to avoid their US suspensions “a troubling precedent.” The Association of Boxing Commissions will be challenged to make a decision on whether these fighters should “get a lifetime ban.” Warren agrees: “You don’t fuck with USADA like that and get away with it.”

Askren asks Warren, “Are these fights going to be real fights or are they going to be fixed fights?” “They’re going to be fixed,” Warren quickly replies, “They’re going to fight a pro-wrestler, then one of them is going to fight Jose Canseco, then they’ll fight each other in the championship. So, there will be one real fight,”

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